User talk:Sing in Silence

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Hello there, Singer! =) Nice updates on Ethereal and the Snotspill article. It's short, but informative on Snotspill, and naturally just a miss in the Ethereal article that needed fixing. Is this your first wiki edit, or have you contributed to other wikis in the past? --Leord 12:50, 8 December 2008 (CET)

U there? =) --Leord 19:04, 1 April 2009 (CEST)


Oh, hi! And thanks.

You'll have to (well, not *have* to) excuse me. I'm new to all things wiki, be it etiquette, interface, syntax, etc., so I'm very much still figuring things out. (Which is why I did a couple of edits in a row. Did something, then saw on another page a way to do it better, or somesuch. Don't recall anymore :p)

I've more or less figured out BBCode, but this is my first wiki edit, here or anywhere.

I've been lurking (unregistered) around here on and off for a while (lots of good info around here =) ), noticed the Snotspill (and later the Ethereal article) and those seemed an appropriate (introduction and) "birthday present" :p

Actually, this is the first time I've been able to log on since then. It kept giving me "bad username or password". :\ So sorry for not responding before now. I just got the notification today. After the trouble logging on, I was rather surprised.

Oh. I was trying to log in with the "quick login" (pair of boxes, top right of's main page), except that that's for the forums. Which are separate from the wiki. As the wiki's main page says.
Now I feel stupid :S

And, uh, as you may have noticed, I tend to talk alot. >.>
(Edit: Ooh, hey! Auto-sig! :P
Also, Help:Talk: possible typo? "gibe (rather then 'give') you opinion".
I'd've changed it, but I'm not sure whether it's intended, and, as I've said, I'd rather not transgress before I learn the behavioral protocols.)
(Edit: Oh poo. I just realized that "History" means that every single change made is saved.
Which I guess is a good thing, but it means I'll have to be a lot less trigger-happy with the 'Edit' button.
(I'm used to forums where edits aren't tracked if it's the last post...)) --Sing in Silence 03:46, 2 April 2009 (CEST)

Hello again! I am really positively surprised at your enthusiasm! Every single little thing you ever did in a wiki is saved, even deletions! Nothing is ever (EVER) truly gone unless there are server problems! I'm very glad you fixed that talk help page typo, everyone else must have just missed that during the last 9 or so months it has been there! =) Never hesitate to change such a thing, rather change to what you think it should be, and leave a question on the talk page of the article, if you're not sure. =)
Well, I'm betting that no one else here really needed to look there any time recently :P --Sing in Silence 18:51, 2 April 2009 (CEST)
As for talk pages, it custom to date stamp every single edit you make, so even smaller clarifications etc, just use the ":" to indent it a bit, and stamp it. It's good for me, so I can see easier when you wrote what, and follow your line of thought! Also, keep each discussion under each headline, so unless you have a new topic to discuss, we continue on the old headline ;) This is YOUR talk page, so you're obviously the master, and can decide how to do it, and avoid stamping your posts, or anything you like, but I'm just telling you what's custom, and how to do on other pages =)
Got it (I think), thank you =) --Sing in Silence 18:51, 2 April 2009 (CEST)
It's really nice to hear you compliment the wiki. Most of the work comes from Flux and Elly, who have spent hundred of hundreds of hours to transfer all the many pages they had in normal html into the wiki. After that, lots of people have pitched in, and now you are one of them! =)
Hey, I've benefited from it, and I believe that quality deserves recognition. :) --Sing in Silence 18:51, 2 April 2009 (CEST)
Anyway, I'm really happy you decided to help out in the wiki, do you have an idea what you want to do next, or can I give you some advice? --Leord 13:37, 2 April 2009 (CEST)
No idea, really. I'm far from an expert on any of the Diablos. Most of my experience is with the Median (mod) series, if you know of it.
(I've worked / am working on a compilation of Less Frequently Asked Questions (and answers), but aside from the mechanics, the stuff there's mod-specific,) So I don't really know what I can add. Snotspill and the oversight in the Ethereal articles I just noticed.
So by all means, advice would be welcome :p --Sing in Silence 18:51, 2 April 2009 (CEST)
PS! The link you put on my talk page leads to the Diablo 3 talk page, of which you don't have one ;) --Leord 13:38, 2 April 2009 (CEST)
Aww nertz.
Note to self: when editing a copy-pasted link, make sure that it actually works :P
Topical response + timestamps. That good? Seems a bit excessive to me, but idk. --Sing in Silence 18:54, 2 April 2009 (CEST)
Edit: Added missing sig+timestamps. Need to get used to that...
Hehe, a personal request: Please don't split up my posts like that, it's very hard to see who says what, especially since it's a wiki =) Once you get used to the quirkiness of the wiki talk pages, it becomes addictive ;)
Great, now I have to think of some suitable task then =) Actually, I don't think there is a wiki page on the Median mod. Would you like to make one? An article basically saying what it is, and features with pictures etc. Can be quite long if you want, or short... As far as I understand, it's a sort of total conversion thing. It's not a traditional "hack", right? If so, then we NEED a page for it, since it's part of the Diablo community! =)
You could even have help pages here, if done as sub-pages like Median/FAQ or the like.
One thing though! You need to add it to the general Diablo wiki rather than the Diablo 2 wiki. You can make a Median article that has a link to the D3Wiki though!. Just tell me if you have any questions =) --Leord 20:13, 2 April 2009 (CEST)
Gotcha, sorry.
It is indeed a total conversion, not a hack. (Hacks make the game easier. A mod makes it different). However, it converts D2 into D2. For the most part, things are based on canon/lore, or things deduced from it. (Unlike Back to Hellfire, for example, which converts D2 into D1:Hellfire, more or less.)
That said, sure, I can write a Median article. Should the tone be lecture-like, rather then conversational, or does it not matter?
Another thing: I went over the Suffixes article, and noticed some things that could use changing.
What kind of corroborating data is required before I change information? (I wrote the notes in the Suffixes talk page, if you want specifics.) --Sing in Silence 14:59, 6 April 2009 (CEST)
The main contributor doing things with Prefixes and Suffixes is Widus, and if there are any major changes need doing, ask him about that, but as far as I know, you can just go in there and start editing. I think Widus would tell you if you do something completely bonkers. I think he'd very much appreciate some help on those two!
As for the upcoming Median article, do keep it pretty lecture-like. Talk about yourself in third person, as well as others. Look at Delowyn or Holyknight3000 for inspiration. That's the informative articles, whike they also have user profile pages, like mine. --Leord 19:24, 7 April 2009 (CEST)
Will Do. Thanks for the tip.
Currently writing the article (on my computer) and will need to look for the wiki's policy on quoting outside sources. (Borgin recently wrote an entry on a blog that has an overview of the Median series. I'm gonna ask him for permission to use parts of it, when I get that far.)
Edit: Ah! So that's how you add edit-comments! :P --Sing in Silence 13:17, 17 April 2009 (CEST)